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"A Little Bit of Nostalgia" by Zeke Ramone
an interview with Cassie - January 5, 2004
(spoilers: 6x13 "Big Christmas Plan" & 6x14
"Silent Night")
The holidays are over, the mad rush to the stores is finished,
but one writer is kept very busy after the holidays. I caught
Cassie after she got out of a writer's meeting, in which she
wasn't able to discuss the content, however she was able to
take some time to sit with me and have a little chat about
the two most recent episodes of "Fox & Rat".
Zeke Ramone: So, how was your holiday?
Cassie: Fine despite a car crash on the way to the airport
in which Kristi's car was totaled, I spent my time in Southern
Texas, enjoying the nice 80 degree weather. You?
ZR: I was freezing, you don't know how lucky you
are.
In "Big Christmas Plan" we see Mulder and
Krycek fight like a married couple. What is this all about?
Are they hiding something "in the closet", or what?
C: No, they are not hiding anything "in the closet"
despite rather vague moments between them concerning their
friendship. As an X-Phile, I am a fan of slash relationships,
especially that of Mulder and Krycek. Having said that, I
can't honestly picture the two of them as lovers - despite
their characterization in the world of FRVS where they seem
rather... colorful. The moments where they "fight like
a married couple" comes from my like of teasing a possibility
that they could be lovers because they act that way (though
not physically). I want to make it clear that both Mulder
and Krycek are straight in FRVS. I have a soft spot in my
heart for Krycek and Marita, and Mulder and Diana.
ZR: Diana? As in Diana Fowley?
C: Yes, Diana Fowley.
ZR: I know she's been mentioned in the series before.
Will we be seeing her in the future?
C: It's a very likely possibility.(she says with a sly smirk)
ZR: What is your take on the Krycek and Marita relationship?
C: Whew! My take on the Krycek/Marita relationship within
the world of FRVS... I'm sure a lot of readers are confused
with this one too (meaning I - as a writer - am confused with
them somewhat). In FRVS, Krycek and Marita's relationship
is clear to Krycek, they are in love. Well at least he knows
for sure that he loves her despite some of his more interesting
interactions with Scully and Monica. Krycek and Marita have
been lovers, but when you ask Marita she denies that they've
ever been together. I can assure you they have. In earlier
seasons Marita has faced "events" (for lack of a
better word) that may seem unchanging to us, but have obviously
changed her (her childlike behaviour, selfishness, violent
outbursts, jealousy). Despite that behaviour Krycek continues
to love her, knowing there remains a warm, loving person somewhere
underneath her bitter exterior.
We plan on addressing Marita's issues in the next few seasons.
I feel if Marita is "fixed" that she and Krycek
could develop a more mature relationship in the series. We
have seen them interact maturely in past episodes and will
see more of this later this season.
ZR: You mention Marita having a twin sister, Maria,
and how she doesn't like her. Will we get a chance to meet
her in the future? Also, what factors were involved in deciding
to make Marita a twin?
C: You'll definately be seeing Maria in season six in an
episode titled "Sleepless In D.C." It's a small
scene that shows the nicer side of Marita (it's actually a
scene written by Kristi, but is uncredited - until now). The
factor that made Kristi and I decide to give Marita a twin
is that we wanted to use Maria to show how money has corrupted
Marita. You'll see that Maria is homeless and lives on the
streets of D.C. How she got there will be brought up in our
series later. Maria is the nicer of the two, one could say
that Marita is the "evil twin".
ZR: That's all very interesting, and I can't wait
to see more about it. Let's move on and talk about "Silent
Night". We've known about Skinner and Kim and how they
have a relationship growing on the series, and in "Silent
Night", the rest of the gang finds out. What triggered
this idea to have them in a relationship?
C: Correction, we haven't really stated that Skinner and
Kim are officially together... but there have been hints throughout
season six and a nod at what was to come in the Paris episode
of "European Voyage". Poor Skinner lost his other
red-head (Scully) so I thought he'd automatically be attracted
to Kim after Scully since she is a red-head too. This relationship
is young so I hesitate in discussing it further at this time.
ZR: Out of curiosity, is this what your writer's
meeting was about?
C: Nope.
ZR: Ok. So, Doggett's got a pretty animated pet beagle
named Buddy. For a dog, he's got a lot of character (covering
his eyes with his paws so he won't see his Christmas present,
seems to understand English pretty well, etc.) What inspired
this?
C: I love dogs. I also happen to think dogs and people are
very similar. Perhaps human personality rubs off on dogs (maybe
that's why some dogs steal their owners pizza instead of eating
their own food). Buddy is a playful pet who cares for his
owner. A little spoiler here for our seventh season... we
will see a connection that Buddy has to the Syndicate that
explains some of his "human" behaviour.
ZR: So, the Syndicate and dogs? Can you discuss it?
C: Not at present.
ZR: Damn! Anyway... "Silent Night" brings
a new light to Marita. In the past, she's been a horrible
person, and suddenly there is a calming change to her. She
realizes she has let her friendships dissolve. She talks about
her past with Alex Krycek. I found myself feeling sorry for
her. I know many readers out there complain about her off-the-wall
attitude. Was there any reason you decided to make her a more
likeable character? Did "reader reaction" affect
your writing decision for her scene with Robert Alfredo? Basically,
what is your take on Marita Covarrubias?
C: Good to see I made you feel sorry for her character. I
like doing that with characters after many moments of irrational
behaviour. I like to make readers feel sorry for characters
who are more or less disliked by the majority, that's the
motivating reason to why the "calm Marita" scene
was included in "Silent Night". It was also there
to show readers that Marita does have a likeable side to her
and not to give up on her completely. "Reader reaction"
had nothing to do with my decision to include the Marita/Alfredo
scene. Looking back over the seasons you can see the change
in Marita and I actually think it's safe to say that her erratic
behaviour began with the introduction of the Doggett character.
It has something to do with her jealousy of the attraction
that Doggett and Scully have for each other. Marita is lost
and confused with her life right now. Hopefully in future
episodes she'll find true happiness.
ZR: I hope so too. Speaking of Doggett and Scully,
"Silent Night" seems to be moving towards a relationship
between them. What are your thoughts about this? Will we finally
see Doggett get brave enough to ask her out in the near future?
C: Ah yes, the Doggett/Scully relationship... "Silent
Night" is probably the biggest step we've taken for this
relationship. We've been teasing it along for a couple of
seasons now and I felt, as did Kristi, that now is a good
time to step it up a notch. Though I love the Doggett/Scully
relationship, I continue to hesitate in bringing it out in
FRVS until I feel my skills as a writer can bring justice
to the development of their relationship especially after
what they will be going through next season. I think our readers
deserve good treatment of something that has been in development
since season three. I can only say that the path they will
take will only get more difficult and controversial before
anything with them is definite. Yes, Doggett will get brave
enough to ask her out before the sixth season finale. What
happens after that is all a part of what will happen in season
seven.
ZR: This is all very intriguing and I know you can't
share with me the details.
In my opinion, "Silent Night" is one of
your best episodes. It's got great characterization, and tops
it all off with a happy ending. What does this episode mean
to you? In your words, what is "Silent Night" all
about?
C: Thank you. "Silent Night" is about friendship
and how important it is to have the ability to have a close
friend to talk to when you're down. I think a part of my writing
it this way has to do with the fact that I haven't had that
"close friend" since I graduated high school six
years ago and unfortunately he is horrible at keeping up with
emails, so we rarely talk much anymore. I guess "Silent
Night" is me remembering how nice it was to have that
close friendship that Doggett and Scully share. Though mine
wasn't ever a romantic relationship. Nostalgia... I bring
up one of the best X-Files episodes, "Beyond The Sea",
from season one and I remember my own friendships all in this
one episode. So perhaps "Silent Night" is about
nostalgia and close friendships.
ZR: Well, thank you for sharing all of this with
us. I'm sure your readers are now more intrigued about what's
to come as much as I am.
C: I hope they are too.
A special thanks to Cassie for taking time out of her busy
schedule to answer my questions. Though I'm still curious
about that writer's meeting, but I guess I can't know everything.
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